LOL Kenny, I wasn't ragging on the animals, just saying we've outrun a few with the clone in the videos and it is fast enough run with some open big blocks, billet animals, CR450Fs and Jawas that don't have a handle on the track and setup, Flash06 and Micheal were doing the gear and tires at the Shiloh race and Micheal weighed in @405 in a 375 class and I told em to go up a 1/2# on the tires and add 2 teeth of gear, but ya'll know Mitch is stubborn lol, the little motor was only 7700, Mitch was turning 8400, that clone won't run with my latest builds which are doing around 33hp @ 8800 (I ain't dynoed em, just my guess judging by how much we're beating dynoed motors) and stand up around 5800 which keeps us in the power band were we carry lots of corner speed since it weighs slightly less than a stocker clone, if you balance the ARC stroker crank using 52% resip weight you can turn it 8800 with great reliability. My current builds will tech 14.3ci, i like to leave a little on the table and we've outrun several M15 "animal" builds with Raptor cranks 17+ci sneaked in @ Nashville. Pop Hall, Pop Vaughn and Dale Earnhardt Sr. always told me "Give me 2.5mph corner speed and I'll give you 5mph strait speed and I'll still beat you", nuff said, it's in the way that you use it. LOL I need a driver that can git up on the wheel , knows how to adjust the tilly and can make 295# kart n driver weight for UAS.