Good question. I tell my driver(s) to make the best of what they've got to work with.Most of this thread has been about getting the setup right. My question is, how do I make the best of the race when the kart isn’t right? How do I adjust for a loose condition or a push?
Why are your tires not hard enough? Do these tires have a bunch of prep in them or are they just a soft tire? I have set mine out in the sun for a long time to get my tires to harden up when I had them to soft. You may be able to get them hard enoguh by doing that and possibly use a conditioner after that during the week to keep the bite in them or whatver you do to prep tires to keep a bite in them.One more question.
My local track is taking a HARD tire right now. I don’t have any that are hard enough and I’m not going to get any that are any time soon. What is my best option to be competitive?
We are a Burris 33 only track. The guys that are winning are running crazy stuff like “new” 2014s.Why are your tires not hard enough? Do these tires have a bunch of prep in them or are they just a soft tire? I have set mine out in the sun for a long time to get my tires to harden up when I had them to soft. You may be able to get them hard enoguh by doing that and possibly use a conditioner after that during the week to keep the bite in them or whatver you do to prep tires to keep a bite in them.
There not winning only because there 2014s Don't get hung up thinking that's the only date code that will work, 2017, 2018, 2019 that weren't prepped at all or much would work as well. How thick is the rubber on your tires that are to soft ? Have they been prepped a lot ? If so with what ?We are a Burris 33 only track. The guys that are winning are running crazy stuff like “new” 2014s.
The track doesn’t have any bite, but you also can’t get a knife to stick into the surface at all.
Mine a pretty thick. I have some that have been prepped pretty hard. I have a couple other sets that have only been wiped with “gentle” bite preps a couple of times. I only run my tires once a month or so. I have plenty of 2019-2020 tires.There not winning only because there 2014s Don't get hung up thinking that's the only date code that will work, 2017, 2018, 2019 that weren't prepped at all or much would work as well. How thick is the rubber on your tires that are to soft ? Have they been prepped a lot ? If so with what ?
Take your least prepped ever set of 2019 hopefully there pretty thick yet, refinish them and run them as much as possible keep heat cycling them, store them in as warm of place as you can through the week, while you know there still to soft increase air pressure as much as track will allow without sliding.Mine a pretty thick. I have some that have been prepped pretty hard. I have a couple other sets that have only been wiped with “gentle” bite preps a couple of times. I only run my tires once a month or so. I have plenty of 2019-2020 tires.
The hardest mine Duro is 60.
We are all running round cut tires.
These guys with the old tires are getting them to duro at 65.
I don’t have the knowledge to figure out what to do.
Yes sir! Thanks!Take your least prepped ever set of 2019 hopefully there pretty thick yet, refinish them and run them as much as possible keep heat cycling them, store them in as warm of place as you can through the week, while you know there still to soft increase air pressure as much as track will allow without sliding.
The used tires ?So I can just deglaze them enough to remove the shine, size the rights for stagger and use them?
Current tires are 33a about 55 duro, I'm told good duro for the track. LR showing white cords in three places and RF cord not thru but I can see the lines under the rubber.The used tires ?
What prep do you have ?
You in the north east ?
Sounds like maybe tires are to soft and the turns it hops in have more grip, are you running same tires heats and features ? are the 2 turns on same end of the track ? or if opposite is it hoping both on entry or exit ?I have a setup question more less. My kart hopes terrible in only 2 of the 4 turns why ?? It starts about 4or5 laps into a race, the tire pressures havent increased. I thought it was the tp rising but they dont. This has really stumped myself and my teammate and crew guy. Im on Burris 33s, 1/10th mile, dirt. It never does it in a heat race only features.
Running the same tires for heat and feature, same 2 turns (1 and2) it starts hoping at end of turn 1 and cont threw the exit of 2.Sounds like maybe tires are to soft and the turns it hops in have more grip, are you running same tires heats and features ? are the 2 turns on same end of the track ? or if opposite is it hoping both on entry or exit ?
Tires remain a mystery to us as well. LOL. We run fairly well most nights and struggle other nights. I too did not like to interfere with fellow racers during the event. The strategy I implored was to talk with fellow racers after the race night or throughout the week about what worked the previous week. The knowledge we received from these conversations were a game changer for our program. We now have a small network that we can share info with at the track as well. It seems to be easier to find someone that competes in a different class.I think this may be toooooo long for most of the readers.
We just started out at the end of last season with my 15 yo grandson rookie and a 05 Tempest in J3 purple plate. This forum have been a major reason for running in the top 6, more like P4 to P6. Once he made the podium because the front runners got tangled up. Technology is way advanced today than when I raced full size stock cars 50 yrs ago. So I try to find the top runners at the track and pick their brain. The problem is they are way too busy and yet help out as much as they can. I feel I'm a major bother interfering with their work. So I refrain from asking questions during the race program. Then, I spend a lot of time reading awesome articles like this to get as much out of it as I can.
TIRES are a mystery to me right now. The experience you guys have is a great tool for us beginners, but most of it is new. I read thicker/thinner tire, where do you measure it and size is good/bad. I have no tire rolling machine to prep tires inside. The preps mentioned on this forum have names versus colors which is used at our track. When I refer to some of the names mentioned here, I get it's not the same. Just blue, green purple and super aggressive. They suggest blue (looks like windshield washer fluid). Don't know when to use single wipe or more or none, how much and when. I try to watch them when they're doing it but it could be on a different set for later or immediate race. There's so much knowledge on this forum, I have a hard time absorbing all that is said about tires. I can relate to setup terminology from my old days of racing. I will not buy a new set of tires, Burris 33a at our track because I cannot do what's required due to lack of equipment or experience. So I try to locate decent tires from the top runners that are good enough for us. I located a set and on a couple the cord is showing thru.
Sounds like tires tick to soft, Increase air by 1 lb in all 4 tires for feature see if it takes longer to start hoping than now, if so that's the problem.Running the same tires for heat and feature, same 2 turns (1 and2) it starts hoping at end of turn 1 and cont threw the exit of 2.
Not all durometer readings are apples to apples. Are you seeing signs that your tires are too soft?Mine a pretty thick. I have some that have been prepped pretty hard. I have a couple other sets that have only been wiped with “gentle” bite preps a couple of times.
The hardest mine Duro is 60.
These guys with the old tires are getting them to duro at 65.