for every person who's had good luck on a deuce, a couple haven't. they're still new, so we'll give them the benefit of the doubt but i think phantom did wrong when they got rid of the single 1-1/4 karts(triton and recon). I think the deuce could do well down SE, but the farther north you get i feel that's not going to be the case. they have great roll speed due to how stiff they are, but people are having a hard time getting them to transfer or "load up" in the corners. just my two pennies from what I've seen all year. Maybe someone will find the sweet spot setup and they'll do consistently better, but reviews have been mixed and of course, tire prep is everything.