junior triton pushing need help

[25love]

We had a 2013 Triton sold it and just got a 2014 Triton Jr. Run 2 races and its pushing off.
Junior 1 driver. We cant seem to figure it out. At this same track our old Triton was set up close to the same and never had any problems. Ran the same tires, prep etc.....Changed to softer tires numbers are
47 nose
56 left side
64.5 cross

ANY SUGGESTIONS???? Thanks!!!

 

[hotelcalifornia]

Is everything set exactly the same as your other triton?

 

[Wynn Racing]

It might take a little more nose weight to get the front to grip.

 

[junior41]

more left?

 

[hotelcalifornia]

Make sure your seat is set exactly like you had the other and the front end etc. Is the same. Mount the weights in the same place as your last triton and set your washers exactly the same on the front as well. Once everything is exactly the same scale it out again and write down the percentages. They may be different but run it like that, then adjust.

 

[Wynn Racing]

The Jr. Triton is a different kart than the standard, so the same numbers might not be best. Has Phantom released setup numbers for this kart yet? There are several people chasing this same issue, but the teams that have them figured out are winning big races.

 

[D. Richer]

Less left and more cross.

what is your camber at?

 

[25love]

Camber is -3.0 +.50
Cross 64.5

I set it up the same way it says to in the set up book.
Thanks for the suggestions! Anymore is appreciated. Very frustrating!

 

[hotelcalifornia]

What size and shape is the track, and stagger?

 

[25love]

1/5 mile oval
Stagger is 1 1/4 & 3/4

 

[racing promotor]

1/5 mile oval
Stagger is 1 1/4 & 3/4

I agree with Richer, but INCREASE rear stagger for sure 1 1/8th '

 

[hotelcalifornia]

I agree with Richer, but INCREASE rear stagger for sure 1 1/8th '

There's your problem! Go to 1 1/8" rear and reset your cross to 66%. Get ready to fly.

 

[D. Richer]

I agree with more rear stagger.

 

[Ltg]

I like the idea of more rear stagger but the big question I have is this: If your Triton was fast, why did you go to softer tires? Softer tires don't necessarily mean more bite and they might be the majority of the problem.

Todd
www.dynamicsofspeed.com

 

[racing promotor]

I like the idea of more rear stagger but the big question I have is this: If your Triton was fast, why did you go to softer tires? Softer tires don't necessarily mean more bite and they might be the majority of the problem.

Todd
www.dynamicsofspeed.com

I was wondering the same thing, but figured I don't know the track so that move was for a specific reason.

 

[SoCo Tire Treatments]

I believe its in the tires, but i know the Jr Triton likes more left than the standard.
If its pushing off, and the tires are correct, go up on left.
Also, for a Jr1 i would not raise cross.

 

[Wynn Racing]

I believe its in the tires, but i know the Jr Triton likes more left than the standard.
If its pushing off, and the tires are correct, go up on left.
Also, for a Jr1 i would not raise cross.

Is the higher left because this kart was made to transfer weight better?

 

[SoCo Tire Treatments]

Is the higher left because this kart was made to transfer weight better?

I know the adults run more left, so i figure the Jrs would have to also. He says he is at 56 left, which should be close, but its an option to see if it does work, and the 1st thing id try as its a simple adjustment.

 

[Wynn Racing]

Any luck with the push yet?