Seems Phantom might have gone in the softer direction withthe Triton. Their Seraph ws a very stiff chassis and one of the fastest they have ever produced. It also is one of the hardest to dial in and get wright, very picky on tires and setup. Its predacessor the icon was a lot more flexable and huser friendly but not quite as fast. The triton is a comprise of the Seraph and the Icon , a somewhere in the middle between the two. Talking to Triton owners they sayit as very clost to as fast as the Seraph but a lot easier to set up. The Seraph is suuppose to like hard tires to keep from locking it down. I just bought a 2012 Seraph and will be going through the learning process of finding its sweet spot.Hope Iamup to the task, much more of an engine man. I have been absorbing as much chassis info as possible,lot to learn. So far JAMES@PRC has been very helpful and informative. I really do appreciate his customer support and think he helps makes Phantom a great company.