not all promoters butt ...


old fart
Why don't they say, "I'm throwing a little money at this and a lot of hype, hoping you all will like it and I can take the profits to the bank". And, "If it doesn't work out, I'll be out a little money and a lot of hype.".

I think saying your "sponsoring" something when it's an "investment" your making to get a return is nothing but a slick way of chasing after customers. I get it and think it's fine when a company sponsors a race or happening to get their name out. But a promoter putting up a small amount of cash and a large amount of hype and lies such as saying there "sponsoring" something is wrong and buyer beware.

In the racing world Barnum and Bailey are alive and well !

a person or organization that provides funds for a project or activity carried out by another, in particular.

An investor is a person who allocates capital with the expectation of a financial return.
Isn't a sponsor and an investor the same thing? After all, a sponsor is an investor investing money for advertisment and in return gathers customers from that advertisment?
I'm not aware of any promoter saying there sponsoring anything at there own track ( event ), when we host an event it's announced as just that an event, However if we support an event other than our own then we use the term Sponsor seems proper to me.

Or our you stating you have a problem promoters looking for sponsor help ?
I'm sorry Ken, I don't put things down on paper right a lot of times.

IMO, there is nothing at all wrong with promoting. period

I'm saying it rubs me the wrong way when someone says they are the promoter and say they are sponsoring. Your reply tells me you also recognize the difference and do not do it. I'm sorry for starting this thread, it's another total waist of others time.