"Why build a mod engine if your limited to what you can do?" That's exactly what I've been saying forever, why bother just stay in box stock. And why angle rules in the mod classes to cut costs, if you wanna save money don't run a modified racing class go back to box stock. Now we got retarded box stockers trying to go to modified class racing on a budget putting a bunch of stupid rules and restrictions on mod racing, it takes all the fun out of it we might as well just run box stock!Got to agree with you by it shouldn't be in the mod classes. If you don't have a cc rule whats the point? Just as in stock appearing, as long as it looks like a factory block and head from the outside it should be wide open on the inside. They could limit you to a stock appearing carb in appearance but a no tech otherwise. Why bother building a mod class engine if your limited to what you can do. It's just an overpriced Builder Prepared. Factory stock casting head and leave it up to the builder to what size valves he uses and how its ported.
Although the 200 and the 390 blocks should be separated in classes.
its a way for the guy that doesn't have a mill and a lath to save a few bucks... it also makes it easy for a guy that runs a standard piston and rod to keep up with a wisco set up... it keeps motors half way in line
I think you guys are missing the wore LIMITED mod. In means you are only permitted to do a LIMITED amount of modifications. A modified class is just a step above limited and there are some rules to follow there but a little more can be done to an engine. Seems you guys all want an open class where they only limiting factor is your wallet. Not being an engine builder I would assume the original reason the rule was put there was to try and limit the money that was put into THAT class. If you want an open class where you can tinker to your hearts content then run an open class and/or UAS.
Then you should have no complaints. There has been a no pop up CONSISTANTLY since day ONE.
That 'used-2B' the nice thing about this country....We WERE free too speak and have freedom-of-speech and Not be judged by those who Thought they KNOW better! We have Washington DC full of 'Logical-Liberal' thinkers! JMO
I DO envy 'tact and diplomacy'!'wrench....dyslexia kicked in on the numbers, but the "regular" predator is 68120, the big valve motor is 69730 and the hemi head is number 60363 (got the box in the shop). i don't know if my explination of the pop up/out is right or wrong. but it seems that the rule is either obsolete because of the head rules or the mystical magical reason for having the rule is to be held secret by the brotherhood of wka/akra. a rule that is either obsolete or made null by another rule (ala the head/combustion chamber rules) should not still be there. this is the problem that several have tried to get across to the sanctioning bodies....that the rules package isn't being rewritten or updated, it's only being added to and the obsolete, redundit or erroneous rules aren't being cleaned out. i've read what dynodon has put up for the rules package and i like them....easy to follow and understand...but it needs to go beyond just the motors....a rules package should also have safety, tech procedures, racing venue procedures....all of it...this is one reason that i'm an advocate of putting all the rules online and either letting everyone see them or offering them as part of a membership fee. either way...it gets the rules out there and they are easily modified (additions or deletions or to further explain). instead we have to kill a bunch of trees to print a book...i ain't a tree hugger, but dang! if you have a new tool that does the job better, easier and faster, then why are you still doing it the old fashioned way? reluctance to change and avoidance of stuff that you can't understand...that's what is keeping things like kart racing in the dark ages.