Softening Burris 33's

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This is really 3 questions:

1. I race Predator Super Stock on a number of smallish, weekly race tracks in the Ohio River Valley. All of them are low bite situations. Some of them require Burris 33's. A lot of the drivers use goat pee for prep. One of the better drivers told me recently that he races Burris 11's whenever possible (even when that might mean sneaking something past tech :)). I've got 4 decent sets of 33's that I'd like to coax through the rest of this season. My tires are around high 40's on durometer. I think I need to be in the mid 30's to be competitive at some of these tracks. Is there a "best" prep for dropping the duro that much? I have Trac Tack Grape, which seems capable of going that low, but I'm not sure that's a great option in warm weather. I also use Insanity Wet (purple) prep often - could I get a 15 point drop with a week or so of deliberately loading that into the tires? If I can get the duro to drop that much, is it likely that having that much prep in the tires is going to create a chemical slide?

2. Is there a sure way to know when a Burris 33 has outlived it's usefulness?

3. Looking ahead, I'd like to keep a set or two of 33's on hand for the tracks that require them. I think I'd also get a set of Burris 11's. Is there any other brand/model you'd recommend for smallish tracks with very low-bite surfaces?

Thanks!
 
#1 . Wipe one set with purple till it gets where you want it . Or pan roll them.
#2. When they turn bluish and harden up. your lap times drop significantly.
#3 . 11's are about as soft as they get without loading with chemicals .
The sidewalls are soft as well .
 
Our Monster Bite will drop the duro 2-3 points per coat. We've got a few guys running those tracks with our prep line. That's about the only thing that you'll still be able to re-run the same set of tires all night long. With limited tire inventory, that would be my suggestion. We've also mixed up a custom blend of our product called "Chomp" for a couple of guys that run down there, and they've done well with it.

Since so many are using goat there, you could cut goat 50/50 with our Pink Panther, then use just a touch of Creo to fire it off (2 ounces per quart.) It's hard on tires and requires fresh set each time you hit the grid though.
Another option is Krug Green (or one of the many copies) when it gets hot out. Again, requires throwing a fresh set each time you hit the track, and then letting them cure out over the next couple of weeks.

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It sounds like you have limited tire inventory and not a huge budget so I'd consider just loading one set with goat and using them when the track conditions require it. One thing about goat, is when it is needed it is the only thing that will work, you will be chasing everyone else that is using it. Same with Creo, there is no substitute, when that is what the track wants, you better be on it.

Use goat and heat to get one set of your 33's down in the 30's and see how they work, goat will ruin them so be prepared to only get a few race weekends on them before they are done. In this sport you can be FAST or CHEAP, pick one :)
 
1fasttiller said:
It sounds like you have limited tire inventory and not a huge budget so I'd consider just loading one set with goat and using them when the track conditions require it. One thing about goat, is when it is needed it is the only thing that will work, you will be chasing everyone else that is using it. Same with Creo, there is no substitute, when that is what the track wants, you better be on it.

Use goat and heat to get one set of your 33's down in the 30's and see how they work, goat will ruin them so be prepared to only get a few race weekends on them before they are done. In this sport you can be FAST or CHEAP, pick one :)
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When do you find Creo is the best prep? I haven't used that since I was a kid MANY years ago but there have been times when I've struggled to find grip and wondered if that might be the ticket.
 
I would not pan roll Burris or roll through the week. work your tires at the track. if you need a big drop put in multiple layers of the insanity purple or goat. you will need to let those tires cure for three weeks before another use. if you need different tires for different situations I would treat each set differently. the goat tire will be a goat tire the chemical never really leaves so that set will be more effective with reapplication.
 
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