Yep , Let me add that the Arc .175" stroker crank moves the 196 piston up the bore about .087" and the Predator about .070" in theory. The rod choice needs to control thisIs the crank you referring to our Billet stroker? If so yes it is a +.175 for the Honda/Clone engines because they average a total stock stroke of 2.125, however it is not a +.175 for the Predator engines. They average a stroke of 2.160. So the Billet crank would be a +.140 stroke in the Predator engines (Hemi or Non Hemi).