Prep

[ABR #69]

You think organizations that make you get your tires at the track don't have favorites? I know this to be fact that there are teams prepping tires in these organizations that pick their tires up THAT DAY...

Doesn't mean they weren't allowed access to the tires previous and prepped and done whatever, you go open the tire barn and the smell of prep knocks you down. It's even pretty easy to walk by a set of tires and say, "Those are prepped." Don't think this would stop it, because it doesn't! Picking the tires up that day would stop most from doing it, but there would be a few who still do it. A travelling series could get away with it for a while, but they still have "regulars" that will be there and they will get access to the tires before hand. They usually allow you access to the tires weeks in advance to measure and choose "your" tires. So that makes it hard for a travelling series to carry tires with them and make that work, as time at an event is an all day thing anyway with today's class line up. It's just not viable, and no one would go for it without access to the tires well in advance to get the set they want mainly due to time restrictions allowing time to get ready. It's a waste of time arguing this. Yeah, we all done it 20 years ago, yeah we still do it now on a much larger scale. No it won't stop, and yes even if it did the ones winning now would still be winning!

 

[SoCo Tire Treatments]

They should just make you buy tires at the big event and not allow prepping or cutting at the event. then it would be interesting to see a race of equals.

Maxxis did this a few years back at the Maxx Daddy and Jr Maxx Daddy at Dawgwood, guess what, the same people who win at the big races won this too.
Prepping was allowed as there is no way to police it, but we didnt get the tires until the morning of the race, and were bar coded as so people had only 3 sets to work with.

 

[Wynn Racing]

Best option to get away from tire prepping is to start a small kart club that don't allow it. Some people already have these on their own land, but it's still on the honor system.

 

[JIM D]

Uhm ! This is kind of funny got people on here saying that prep or not the same people will be winning with that being said the prep is useless !!! Now we are getting somewhere ! We raced for 14 years and got pretty dam good got out of it for 10 years and still have not seen or heard of any track records being made because of prep ! Got back into it for around a year now and still dont see the use of the crap !! Best options for everyone and new people getting into the sport would be to just get rid of the crap !! The **** is just like the lateess and greatest in anything that we do and its getting pretty old its takeing alot of fun out of the sport and knowing what to do as far as raceing the track oh yea i am on a roll and soooo be it !

 

[ABR #69]

The key is we're all going faster, even though some are in the back, they're going faster than they were without prep. So it's not useless, it works very well. This is not a good argument for no prep, because it really does work. So you're not getting anywhere with that argument, and you just look silly.

Several track records this year broken around here at a few different tracks, so you're just not looking hard enough. IN ONE NIGHT, the track record was broken seven times by the top 7 qualifiers in the UAS quarter points race. Not just by a little, by .4 of a second. All 7 karts were within .4 from 1st to 7th. Yes, the top qualifier had one of the best in the country doing his tires as well! You're just an idiot and can't see that everyone preps, and has been prepping since racing began. You think it's not fun now, take that useless prep away and watch how much fun it is when you're still getting lapped and can't figure out why.

 

[ONEHARDHEAD]

Tire distribution at the track would be a logistical nightmare for a promoter, and nearly impossible to enforce. Promoters and sanctioning bodies would have to probably triple the number of their staffs in order to keep up with tires, and tech after the race would then include breaking down tires in order to check for prep. Pie-in-the-sky idealism and the real world are sometimes miles apart. If you think that races are being won without prep at big shows, you have a lot to learn. Having been involved with kart racing as well as many levels of stock car racing for almost thirty years, I assure you that prep is being used at most levels of motorsports, from your backyard kart track to "Street Outlaws" drag racing to NASCAR's lower levels (at least).

 

[rransom]

Invent a tire that goes just as fast as a prepped tire and then maybe you will get people to stop prepping. Until then it will be here to stay

This is a great idea but with a few big problems. We have a file drawer full of data that shows every day of a tire life it loses some of the chemicals in the tire that it was made with.
Every time a tire hits the track it loses some of the chemicals that the tire was made with.

At present most fast racers using Maxxis tires are aging them to get rid of chemicals that the tire was made with and then putting in chemicals they want in them.
The very best chemical we have found to build bite can't survive the vulcanization process in making tires. This means it has to be applied after the tire is made.

There are many more reason and I will gladly discuss them with you. Feel free to call me. 336-406-ATTL

With all due respect,
Randy

 

[W5R]

Uhm ! This is kind of funny got people on here saying that prep or not the same people will be winning with that being said the prep is useless !!! Now we are getting somewhere ! We raced for 14 years and got pretty dam good got out of it for 10 years and still have not seen or heard of any track records being made because of prep ! Got back into it for around a year now and still dont see the use of the crap !! Best options for everyone and new people getting into the sport would be to just get rid of the crap !! The **** is just like the lateess and greatest in anything that we do and its getting pretty old its takeing alot of fun out of the sport and knowing what to do as far as raceing the track oh yea i am on a roll and soooo be it !

you clearly don't understand what "prepping" tires really is. Prepping tires is not just the chemicals we put in and on the tires to get the speed potential out of them, it also includes cutting, profiling, sizing, cleaning and maintaining the tires, different processes yield different results, the chemicals are just the icing on the cake after everything else is already done. Just because you aren't seeing track records get broken where you are does not mean it isn't happening elsewhere, it happens everywhere across the country pretty much every weekend, as the preparation, chemicals and treatment process keeps advancing, karts keep getting faster. Add into that the fact that chassis manufacturers are constantly trying to make improvements, and you have even more speed being found, it never stops. Its called racing, and no matter what form of racing you look at, the competitors are always going to try to find that edge over their competition and get ahead of the game. You either have to step up and learn it and get with the times, or be satisfied with the way you run now and keep trying to improve YOUR program so that YOU can be competitive. If you really honestly believe that prep is not necessary or needed to be fast at some of the biggest races in the country, then prove it and show up at one of the national or series races with unprepped and untreated tires and win....if you can do that, your argument would have alot more ground and value to it. I can assure you, nobody is stupid enough to show up at any big race worth mentioning and have unprepped/untreated tires and win, or even finish on the podium, definitely not going to do it on 10 race old tires that haven't been touched since they were new, much less with brand new untouched sticker tires either. There is always going to be some form of prep being done to tires if you want to be able to compete, whether its just setting the size/stagger and air pressure, scuffing them in, or wiping/rolling some chemical. You wouldn't show up at a NASCAR race with brand new tires and a half ass engine would you? No, and you won't show up at a kart race with a new engine and half ass set of tires either, not anyone with any hopes of winning anything at least....cant say in your case since you obviously been hit by a train or hit the bottle a little too much judging by the way you type/write/speak. Might as well drop your "ban prep" argument, your pushing it in the wrong place to begin with.

 

[JIM D]

I like you too mr weddle have a wonderful day !