OK i can say the same thing about a clean tire that has just been resurfaced vs a dusty tire that is glazed over no prep involved. is there such a thing as too much bite vs too soft a tire. when would i pick a hard tire with a lot of Bite vs a tire that has been prepped soft? a softer compound tire would stick to the track more than a hard one. or is the trick to the tires to have the hardest duro with the most bite?Bite in the tire to me is how hard it is to pull your hand across the tire with minimal downward pressure.
Duro is how soft it is when you dig your fingernail in.
the "trick to tires" is track specific, if you run a wet sandy track down in florida where you need a duro of 40 and a mild to agressive prep, and you go on the track with tires punching 52 and a ton of bite your going to be lucky getting around the track. but on the other hand if your in the carolinas on some hard clay where you need a tire punching 52 and you go out with tires punching 40 your for one will know after a lap around the track your slow, and when you go to wash your tires the inside edge will be gone.OK i can say the same thing about a clean tire that has just been resurfaced vs a dusty tire that is glazed over no prep involved. is there such a thing as too much bite vs too soft a tire. when would i pick a hard tire with a lot of Bite vs a tire that has been prepped soft? a softer compound tire would stick to the track more than a hard one. or is the trick to the tires to have the hardest duro with the most bite?
is adding a ton of Bite to a 52 duro tire desirable at the Carolina track or can you add too much bite in the tire and make it slow?the "trick to tires" is track specific, if you run a wet sandy track down in florida where you need a duro of 40 and a mild to agressive prep, and you go on the track with tires punching 52 and a ton of bite your going to be lucky getting around the track. but on the other hand if your in the carolinas on some hard clay where you need a tire punching 52 and you go out with tires punching 40 your for one will know after a lap around the track your slow, and when you go to wash your tires the inside edge will be gone.
To much bite in my opinion will lock you down making you slow . Of course there are tracks that require a tire with more bite .is adding a ton of Bite to a 52 duro tire desirable at the Carolina track or can you add too much bite in the tire and make it slow?
Its the chemicals used in the prep that changes the molecular make up of the tire which creates the bite with little to no softening.What is tire bite and how does a prep give you 'bite' without dropping the duro of the tire. or build a longer lasting 'bite' I can understand a prep making a tire soft or replenishing the tires oils etc. if its not changing the duro of the tire what is it changing?
Yea, my explanation above is about as good as I can explain it....So much of working with tires is simply experience. LOTS and LOTS of it.Brian and earl have probably forgotten more about tires and prep then I know, lol, but I think both would agree its something you have to learn at the track. reading sometimes causes more confusion then explanation.
If you can be more specific on the product you are using, maybe someone (rep.) from that company could chime in and tell us better.I have a question about weekly prepping.. I use a conditioner during the week, its what I'm told that I need. But what exactly is the conditioner doing for the tire? And is conditioner good for wet tracks or dry tracks, or both?
I been using Donnie nall's insanity prep.If you can be more specific on the product you are using, maybe someone (rep.) from that company could chime in and tell us better.
Most "conditioners" are used to keep a tire fresh, rejuvinate the rubber, etc. most do this by adding oil to the tire. Some soften, some do not. None are harsh that I have seen.
They can be used on both wet or dry tracks. Again, depends on the product if it's appropriate or not.
I use Nall’s yellow and it does soften the tire a few points but it’s good stuff. If you need to build bite without softening Donnie’s hard track is the go to.I been using Donnie nall's insanity prep.
He tells me to use his yellow crush during the week. It dont soften the tire at all. I was just curious on what the conditioner is really used for. I think if I could understand what the prep is doing with the tire once applied, I might be able to figure out what I need at the track and make better prepping choices..
Lots of times a tire conditioner will keep the rubber flexible. This is needed for grip. A dry, stiff tire will not bend properly to the imperfections in the trackI been using Donnie nall's insanity prep.
He tells me to use his yellow crush during the week. It dont soften the tire at all. I was just curious on what the conditioner is really used for. I think if I could understand what the prep is doing with the tire once applied, I might be able to figure out what I need at the track and make better prepping choices..
what tracks are you racing?I have a question about weekly prepping.. I use a conditioner during the week, its what I'm told that I need. But what exactly is the conditioner doing for the tire? And is conditioner good for wet tracks or dry tracks, or both?
I race at several different track.what tracks are you racing?