Purple pick up tubes !!!!I have ran nitromethane in my flathead. Mixed it with M5 vp and I will tell you it’s a very distinct smell and noticeable seat of the pants difference.
Anyone found to be using any additive intentionally to violate the spirit and intent of the sport should be banned from the sport for life.
Smart promotor once said "you are banned until next Thursday" racing world is too small to be banning peopleAnyone found to be using any additive intentionally to violate the spirit and intent of the sport should be banned from the sport for life.
I would entertain that. I have quite a few flatties sitting on my shelf here waiting for me to lose weight so i can run flatties again. Also have a clone i am acquiring parts to build for heavy/ super heavy.we run an open class so it’s flatties versus clones in a knockdown drag out!
No where close the same comparison BIG difference between found to be Illegal VS CHEATING !! especially when it's using chemicals that have been banned.Would the same apply to anyone who exceeds maximum lift, or carb bore?
I mean, illegal is illegal right?
No where close the same comparison BIG difference between found to be Illegal VS CHEATING !! especially when it's using chemicals that have been banned
In this case yes you cheated, but you cannot label it the same because more times than not to much lift is just a product of wear and is illegal out of spec, in those cases there was no violation of spirit of intent.Can you explain to me the difference between cheating vs. illegal?
So if I run hot fuel, I'm cheating and should be banned for life.
But if I've got a big cam and my lift is .017 over limit, that's just illegal and I'm not banned?
I think very few people on here would support the "Banned for life" statement.Can you explain to me the difference between cheating vs. illegal?
So if I run hot fuel, I'm cheating and should be banned for life.
But if I've got a big cam and my lift is .017 over limit, that's just illegal and I'm not banned?
Most organizations have a rule if found tampering with fuel you face a lifetime ban because this has LITERALLY killed people. Furthermore, if you run a big cam, while it is immoral, your competitors face not chance of physical harm. If you run fuel tainted with whatever chemicals, the people you race with are inhaling whatever noxious fumes you have decided to add to your fuel and face potentially severe physical outcomes without any prior knowledge or consent. Furthermore, you open up the karting facility and organizations to whole plethora of liability and sanctions. All so you could win a $20 trophy. The fact this needs to be explained to you demonstrates your respect for those who chose to compete with you.Can you explain to me the difference between cheating vs. illegal?
So if I run hot fuel, I'm cheating and should be banned for life.
But if I've got a big cam and my lift is .017 over limit, that's just illegal and I'm not banned?
Most organizations have a rule if found tampering with fuel you face a lifetime ban because this has LITERALLY killed people. Furthermore, if you run a big cam, while it is immoral, your competitors face not chance of physical harm. If you run fuel tainted with whatever chemicals, the people you race with are inhaling whatever noxious fumes you have decided to add to your fuel and face potentially severe physical outcomes without any prior knowledge or consent. Furthermore, you open up the karting facility and organizations to whole plethora of liability and sanctions. All so you could win a $20 trophy. The fact this needs to be explained to you demonstrates your respect for those who chose to compete with you.
I agree with you on this , wrong is wrong.. Some people seem to get there kicks tryin to come upI don't need anything explained to me, nor do you know anything about the respect for those I race with.
If you think I'm in agreement or advocating for anything, you obviously don't know what the term "devils advocate" means.
I'm simply replying to Don's suggestion of tampering with fuel should result in a lifetime ban....how tampering with fuel should result in a ban, but a high lift cam shouldn't. Illegal is illegal, cheating is cheating.
If my big cam motor grenades, and a piece of the block punches through someone's helmet shield and takes there eye out, is that any different then exposing them to harmful inhalants from hot fuel?
Yep, and Michael Waltrip's team mixed it with grease and put it in the intake runners.In the 90's and 00's, Cup crew chiefs would soak the air filter in propylene oxide and slap it on right before qualifying.