Great explanation just one question why when I go to 66 cross and more left side is the result the same I know some guys are on 64 cross and never change it but yet are on more stagger
Assuming you followed it should be easy to explain by bringing in available hp and the momentum all should be trying to save after turn in with the driving process I describe as brake, >>insert arc<<, turn, accelerate. Being fast is all about using what ever your racing to take best advantage of the "insert arc" portion of each turn. After turn in and sometimes even including turn in every turn should have something like or similar to the "insert arc" and the turns included in each of your turns are entry, mid turn and exit. The most speed is lost during mid corner and during exit with what you do entering setting up mid corner and the result of mid corner being exit.
Back to your question and before you read on read again what you wrote and think about what I wrote in my last post so you can relate the two together.
answer quoting me: "If you and the others are at the same place in the turn going the same speed you MUST unload more weight then they do or your LR tire with it's slower surface speed will scrub speed and you won't be able to go thru the turn as fast as they do with your limited hp."
The caveat is how much turning you need to do and can doing it with the fronts to overcome additional grip used in the back which is trying to make you go straight. ... is that ok at this point I hope so?
Absolute fast is getting through a corner at or very near the limit of grip for the speed your going and the momentum you brought into the corner.
To go faster you must have additional grip along with either or both of additional hp and momentum.
Without additional grip/bite and either or additional hp and momentum you can't go any faster.
Here what's interesting and your learning it from the source of the interesting theory.
"For you to add acceleration from the back or a higher maintained momentum you must first have additional turning ability from the front tires."
Here's a question for you and if the answer is obvious I did good.
Is your reduction in stagger causing the backs to more want to go straight?
and another question. If the backs with your reduced stagger is making you want to go straight more what must you have to make up for it?
You already know and have the additional turning ability up front or you would not be able to carry more momentum in the corner keeping up with those who have less ability to carry less momentum. Notice I said less ability and not that they were carrying less momentum. ...
This just crept back into mind and it's about your initially saying you can turn down on others coming off and I'll assume it's an advantage you have that others either don't of have less of. If your setup has you on more grip both front and rear for what ever reason, wouldn't that be the case?
We started out sprint kart racing turning to dirt box stock kart racing, then to dirt yami, then to UAS, on to 360 sprint car and my low no pot to pee in son last year saw a dream come true by putting two sprint cars on the track one a 360 and the other a 410.
That's just fun to say but it is also a lead into what follows. I'm into so many different types of dirt racing stuff there is no way I could ever know or remember what adjustment does what. Because of that and knowing my own personality I long ago got into creating my own theories about how stuff works. Naturally I got into winged and non winged sprints and lately have been trying to understand Super lated and big blocks. The last two has helped immensely understanding karts from a different perspective or a perspective other then just how a staggered solid axle works. Karts are more towards Late models then winged sprint cars. But ultimate efficiency no matter what you race is still the same and it's about what you have to work with and it's limitations and advantages. Today even winged sprint cars are moving their over all setup as much as they can towards how Super Lates and Big Blocks function. I forgot where I was going with that but it doesn't matter.
I got back on track and here is the comparison of controlling or using grip up front to help your backs be able to accelerate I was leading into.
What follows is totally my theory. Thinking about the grip you need up front to be able to use your backs efficiently as you have setup your kart.
Think about a Super Late and how it's rear steer moves the nose of the car over to the left and how the HUGE camber you see on the straights angles the RF tire into the track. Is it an aw ha moment already? Do you see how they can apply rear grip for acceleration only because they are gaing grip up front by pinning the RF tire or driving it into the track?
Now the other side of the coin. Can you picture a winged sprint car driver with his light high hp car sawing the steering wheel back and forth coming off the corner? Do you know why there doing it? There doing it because the lightness of the car and their huge amount of available hp is allowing them to get to the limit of grip. If you have a ton of stagger and are in the process of straightening out and moving weight off the RR and onto the LR to setup for the next turn, the sawing of the steering wheel is actually freeing up the fronts to shift total available grip towards the back for acceleration.
... I think i'd better stop. Why? I need another cup of coffee. ...
I hope I did ok explaining and if you see errors in it please point them out to me because I am on here not only for fun but to learn. There's nothing better at the track then to try to explain your thoughts and have someone say your full of it and >>>here's the reason why your not correct. ...
Netting it out with your less stagger and more turning ability up front, your creating more conflict between your fronts and your backs. That additional conflict is what is allowing you to run with the others at or close to the limit of grip. The goodness may be that when needed you can alter your speed or line to shift over all function to take advantage of the additional grip you already have to turn down coming off the corner.
maybe?????
now I really got to get that coffee royal
