mikelavite#72
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it only took us 1&1/2 seasons to get away from clones . we needed 4 different clones to go racing
see Al gets it ! we as racers cant blame the engine builders . if you dont want to build your oun engine and they have the "latest & greatest " thing out there yep you guessed it we the racers are buying it . they sqweez out extra hourse power and we sqweez out the extra dollars
Made in China. That says it all. My motor builder bought 5 new clones in the beginning of this trend. Put them on the dyno straight out of the box. One was MUCH better than the rest. One of them had the flywheel come apart. Inconsistent China made crap is why the builders had to get involved. We push our equipment to the limits and beyond. To expect something out of the box to perform at the level we demand is not going to happen unless it is made to. This is where the engine builders come in. God bless them. Personally I don't have the time nor desire to do what they do.
I thougBack to Mike Lavites "Original Post".........in that same catalog, what is that builder charging for a WKA legal alcohol Stock class Briggs Animal, and how much fro a WKA legal, Stock class flathead Briggs???
The Kart shops make the rules always have always will and not just in wka, if you don't think so then why are the Clone rules changed every year with up dates, what was wrong with the way they were? Who makes the money from these not the Racer.
I used to hand make baseball bats.
1 comment ! I STILL HAVE MY ANIMALS AND THE WERE $1200 AND ARE SUPERIOR TO THE clone. Steven67
I thoug
ht this was/is the "Clone" thread...
I know this is off topic, but I have to say that is really cool. Not to many craftsmen left out there.
I may be full of mud but I started Kart racing 1n 1985 . I saw the stock flat head go from turning 53 /55 hundred rpm to 7,000 . Do you think the karter changed the rules over the years to allow them to do this. Who bought 50 stock cams to pick the best one out not Joe blow? Remember pick of the litter cams who sold them not Joe blow . Who changed the rule to have ground cams so they could sell ten of them, and on and on the karter does not get to vote on the rules so if not who makes them. Why do the kart builders change there kart every year or so ? The kart shops sell them so they want this. Who changed the rules on the clone, no one called me and asked if I wanted them changed. What was wrong with the 2011 carb rule why did it change, I have a friend that gets $400,00 to up date a 11 clone why all the up dates (other than the fly wheel) this is how they took a $99,00 motor and made it a $1,000 motor. I have built my own motors from when I started and they have won a lot of races and money so I don't really careYou my friend are full of mud!!! I am not a kart shop and I have played an instrumental part in several of the rule changes for the clone mainly to benifit the little guy as in the "DIY'er" Also, you guys that are talking about the kart shops changing the rules, name a rule change that you would like a reason for the change given to you so you don't leave here with the misunderstanding that a specific group of people are making/changing rules to benefit the wallet.