What is the Ducar 212 intended for?
What is the Ghost 212 intended for?
Do they / would they ever compete in the same class?
I’ll admit I’m kinda a noob when it comes to classes and rules, (as are many others I suspect), so to understand this argument, and to make educated statements, and to be able to draw a conclusion there are a few basic questions that need to be answered.
If these two engine were to compete in the same class, that would justify comparison between them, if they should never see each other on the track, than comparing them is indeed pointless.
So honestly, what are the answers to these few basic questions?
Remember this thread will be around for the foreseeable future, and will likely attract the attention of many people, (likely newer people to the sport), so we should try to make it as productive as possible.
The Ducar 212, for all intent and purposes was designed to be a reliable replacement to the Predator in the "Box stock / Hobby Stock" class. By reliable, I mean more durable block configuration, better flywheel, as well as more consistency where parts are concerned. Particularly where tech is concerned. They are, according to the questions Randy at dynocams has answered for me, a single source production engine. Meaning they are produced and assembled at one factory. With all that said, the engine by design is still an engine that can be put to use, as is, on any piece of equipment that utilizes a horizontal shaft 6.5 hp ohv engine.
The Ghost, like it or not, is Harbor Freights version of the Lo206. Nothing more nothing less. It's their engine, for all intent and purposes, designed for sprint/road course type racing. Will it find its way into dirt oval racing? It's inevitable. That's not necessarily a bad thing, depending on who you talk to. And trust me when I tell you, Harbor Freight is watching. So if people hope to have a more consistent product in the future, positive feedback and SOLUTIONS to problems with inconsistency is what's needed. Not a bunch of naysayers looking to Garner subscribers and likes on Facebook and YouTube. Example.......Consistent rod stroke, consistent cam centerline, consistent cam grinds, hardened cam lobes for durability, consistent lengths and weights on valve train parts. As we all know this is what we don't have in the current out of the box Predator utility engine we have now. I'm telling you all, the best thing people could ever do is talk, on these threads and Facebook, just like they were talking straight to the powers to be at Harbor Freight.
Will they compete in the same class? No. They aren't designed to. If a track had enough karts show up with each of these engines on them to make a class, they would be two SEPERATE classes. The ONLY things these two engines have in common is they are meant to be ran just as they are produced. You're not suppose to change any part (external or internal) for the purpose of performance enhancements. The ONLY thing you're allowed to do is replace parts with the same OEM parts, for maintenance purposes.
This whole comparing the two engines to o e another, other than, on track or on the dyno, is moot and pointless.